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Post by allenuk on Mar 8, 2010 0:54:02 GMT -7
Tom: that is Good News, and I am very pleased to hear it - both for your sake, and for mine.
We had a brief discussion here a couple of months ago about pin liners, and my prosthetist tends to agree that too many are given out to any old amputee, regardless of need, on the basis of a) fashion ("It's the thing to do") and b) (of course) money, as they were pushed like crazy by the manufacturers about ten years ago.
I am looking forward to my suction leg even more than I already was! (Not sure which one I'm getting. He described it as having 1) a liner without a pin, 2) a fairly conventional outer socket, and 3) an outer liner which goes over the outer socket, then rolls up and onto the thigh and which 4) has a couple of valves involved, too. Does that sound familiar?
Allen.
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Post by Tom on Mar 10, 2010 15:07:50 GMT -7
Yes, that's what I've got except the suction is augmented by a pump that creates a very high vacuum and an extremely secure connection.
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Post by allenuk on Mar 11, 2010 1:43:58 GMT -7
Tom: I was cast yesterday, so shouldn't be long. The cast was much tighter than usual - my man said he wanted it to be as close as possible, eliminating any guesswork when he came to make the actual socket.
The new socket will incorporate a half-moon shaped bit of silicone underneath the base of the stump, which your leg (his words) 'squishes' into. Just above the silicone 'cup' is a one-way valve, so as you push your leg in, air is expelled. He reckons that it becomes such a strong fit that it is almost impossible to pull off, at least not without releasing the suction sleeve at the thigh. I'm really looking forward to this, as my pistoning pin-lock liner is beginning to get very sore!
Allen, bka.
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Post by ann58 on Mar 11, 2010 14:21:50 GMT -7
Hope you have good luck Allen...guess my legman says I need a new leg....going in Wed. for casting.
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Post by Tom on Mar 21, 2010 14:29:37 GMT -7
Alan: Good luck with the new suspension system. It's always interesting to investigate and figure out all the ins and outs of a new approach. I hope it works better for you.
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Post by mom2noble on Mar 21, 2010 18:59:27 GMT -7
Hey this brings up a good point. Noble has the pin system and he gets soo sweaty. On his PE days and after recess his silcone liner gets sucked off his leg a good bit. He wont slow down to put it on better until he gets home from school and by then it sometimes milks his short leg like an utter! Any suggestions?
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Post by cherylm on Mar 21, 2010 19:56:55 GMT -7
If Noble is lucky, he'll slowly adjust to his liner and the sweating will let up. It took me about a year for that to happen. If he's as reluctant to just take a minute and "dry things off" as you say, you might want to look into an anti-perspirant for him to use on his stump. It really would be a good thing, though, if he could get used to maintaining his suspension now, while he's young. If it becomes a habit, it will do well for him for the rest of his life.
Glad to hear that he's so active, though!
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Post by allenuk on Mar 22, 2010 3:49:57 GMT -7
Holly: to some extent, I don't think there is much way round this. Whether he uses a pinlock liner, or a non-pinned liner (which in turn means a suction-fit socket involving even MORE closing in around the lower thigh), he's got a liner. There is an alternative, which he might have used originally, which is a sort of 'force-fit' system, where you put a light fibreglass cup onto the stump then shove it into the socket, with or without socks, and it stays on just by the pressures. But it is obviously still hotter than a 'natural' leg.
One thing to ask your prosthetist: 'Windows' are often used by them to alleviate pressure points, particularly on pinlock systems - they are simply holes cut in the outer socket. Not that your lad might need them for THAT reason, but it has often struck me that cutting a couple of holes in non-load-bearing areas could help keep a stump cooler.
Might be worth a chat to your expert.
Allen, bka, London.
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Post by Tom on Mar 28, 2010 15:56:46 GMT -7
Mom2noble: There's an antiperspirant called Certain Dri that works as well as anything I've found. Put it on him at night and he'll do less sweating the next day. It doesn't seem to work very well when applied in the morning. Something to think about, I have a lot less problem with sweating with a vacuum system than I did with the pin-lock.
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Post by ann- on Mar 28, 2010 23:09:22 GMT -7
The old metal legs I wore forty years back with the leather sockets kept your legs much cooler than the contemporary type ... that said though ... the contemporary type have advantages the old type didn't have, and trying to get them made today wld probably have its own problems.
I think most of the liners get hot and sweaty... though the body kind of adapts to them after a while, like Allen says there is not much way round this. Though to be honest I sometimes find the sleeve which holds my legs on get sweatier than the liner. I just carry around babywipes and kitchen towel and dry things off ... but maybe not such a good solution for a young lad like Noble. Holly, know they do things differently in the States, but they have they tried a leg without a liner with just socks ... I do this on my non-skin grafted side and its much less hot and sweaty .. would Noble be able to do this?
Ann
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