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Post by stonecutter on Nov 16, 2010 14:34:40 GMT -7
Just recently I tried out liquid bandages on a spot that was chafing or breaking down. Particilarly behind the knee on my new socket while I wait for my next appointment. Worked like a charm. Anyone try this before? I'm sure... EDIT: I guess I should qualify: It didn't solve the problem, but it did provide some protection for the irritated spot and prevented further breakdown. |
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Post by barclay on Nov 16, 2010 22:24:42 GMT -7
I thought about that too - but got scared away because it said only small areas and I wasn't sure what small meant. Good to know that it works.
Another option is blister-bandages - I use compeed and they've worked great. (http://www.compeed.ie/bgdisplay.jhtml?itemname=blisters&s=4) They also make a stick of a skin lubricant which I've used with the new silicon liner over the knee as it's done its stretching.
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Post by allenuk on Nov 18, 2010 5:38:55 GMT -7
Co-incidentally, my physio recommended these to me today, having heard my moans about end-of-stump rubbing problems.
She said to try a thing called Spenco 2nd Skin Dressing which you can get online from the UK and the US. Cheaper in the US, but then the $30 postal charge made it dearer, so I ended up getting it for a few quid more, but in the UK.
Principle sounds good - a liquid barrier between skin and the foreign object (in our case liner/socket). I shall report back, too, once I've tried it...
Allen.
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Post by ann- on Nov 18, 2010 12:11:18 GMT -7
Co-incidentally, my physio recommended these to me today, having heard my moans about end-of-stump rubbing problems. She said to try a thing called Spenco 2nd Skin Dressing which you can get online from the UK and the US. Cheaper in the US, but then the $30 postal charge made it dearer, so I ended up getting it for a few quid more, but in the UK. Principle sounds good - a liquid barrier between skin and the foreign object (in our case liner/socket). I shall report back, too, once I've tried it... Allen. Are you sure that Spenco 2nd skin dressing is a liquid dressing? I remember using something with a name like this, years back, but it wasn't liquid ... I used to get it from Millets and was used for walkers blisters etc. .... it did work fairly well though. |
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Post by kapteenkoukku on Nov 18, 2010 18:55:48 GMT -7
I used to get over from skin breakage behind the knee when I was using PTB socket with Pelite liner and Silipos sock with following do-it-yourself method:
1. Rubbed Savlon cream under the knee thinly.
2. Cut a piece of cling wrap and placed it on under-the-knee area.
3. Rolled the Silipos sock over it as usual and did the rest of the donning.
It might work for liner users too and does not cost too much.
I learned the method from one of these forums; another member had learned it from a doctor who was an amputee and had given the advice. That doctor had also said that thereis some healing properties in cling wrap itself.
It worked very well for me those days, I did the same when I went cycling. Now when I have been using Ossur liner I have not had skin breakdowns behind the knee, just some thinning of the skin at pressure areas whic do not bother me too much.
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Post by allenuk on Nov 19, 2010 14:04:07 GMT -7
Ann: well, received my 2nd Skin Dressings today and tried one on my sore stump, and so far (touching all sorts of wood - superstitious, me??) so good.
These come as 3-inch circles of a sort of gel substance, quite thin, a little sticky (not adhesive, it's just the gel I think). You peel one off, lay it on the bit of body you want to protect, and then either stick medical tape over to hold it on, or in my case, as it was on the end of my stump, just roll the liner on over it to hold it in place.
I was expecting nothing, but I stood up, walked, and found I had an almost pain-free stump end. As I say, I'm not singing and dancing just yet, as I've had a few false starts.
I'll report back in a day or two!
Allen.
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Post by ann- on Nov 20, 2010 2:20:24 GMT -7
Ann: well, received my 2nd Skin Dressings today and tried one on my sore stump, and so far (touching all sorts of wood - superstitious, me??) so good. These come as 3-inch circles of a sort of gel substance, quite thin, a little sticky (not adhesive, it's just the gel I think). You peel one off, lay it on the bit of body you want to protect, and then either stick medical tape over to hold it on, or in my case, as it was on the end of my stump, just roll the liner on over it to hold it in place. I was expecting nothing, but I stood up, walked, and found I had an almost pain-free stump end. As I say, I'm not singing and dancing just yet, as I've had a few false starts. I'll report back in a day or two! Allen. These are the same type I used some years ago Allen .... I was wearing a different type of prosthesis then but I remember they did work quite well ... then they disappeared off the market .... what shop are you buying them from... I am thinking it might be worth getting some in. Glad they are working ... will keep fingers x'd for you. |
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Post by allenuk on Nov 20, 2010 8:18:14 GMT -7
www.simplyfeet.co.uk/p-561-spenco-2nd-skin-dressing.aspx48 3-inch dressings are a whopping £42+ from them. www.amazon.com/Spenco-10-603-2nd-Skin-Circles/dp/B0013FPWWC/ref=sr_1_fkmr2_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1290266042&sr=1-2-fkmr2Amazon US do these for only $32, which is far cheaper than the sterling price, but no good if you're living in the UK. (Although looking now at the Amazon US shipping rates, it might still be cheaper, as they have a very reasonable $4 basic charge plus another $6-ish for heavier items, which these are - so at $42, it's still way cheaper than 42 pounds sterling). There are probably cheaper suppliers around - let us know if you find any... (Oh, and day 2 and they're still working. I tried one, and two, at a time, and in my case the single gel works better). Allen.
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Post by ann- on Nov 20, 2010 10:30:07 GMT -7
Brilliant that they are still working OK, but they sound a little expensive ... though I suppose worth it if it keeps you walking pain free.
The ones I used to get cost about £3 (but going back a few years) and I bought them from Millets .... but they did stop selling them. Nice to know they are available thro amazon though.
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Post by allenuk on Nov 20, 2010 13:33:05 GMT -7
I saw these, and think they might be a similar thing: www.feetlife.co.uk/Buy-Online/Gel-E-Roll-Gel-Sheet-by-Silipos/567and at £15.45 sounded much cheaper, until you work out how many 3" rounds you get out of one 48"x4" roll... (for those not so quick at sums, it comes out to about 20 rounds, as opposed to the 48 you get for £42. Thus cheaper, but only minimally). Maybe it's just expensive stuff to produce? (Charitable of me, how unusual). Allen. |
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Post by allenuk on Nov 23, 2010 13:35:03 GMT -7
I'm backtracking a bit from my original wild praise of 2nd Skin as a sore-patch assistant.
For the first couple of days, it did seem to work, but after that it is only effective for the first 2 or 3 hours, then my tib point works its way through the gel and leaves just the plastic sheet liner - you can see the gel all round the periphery, and a large hole in the centre where the gel used to be!
All I can come up with is that normally I have my stump thrust back against the rear of the socket, to keep my tib point away from the FRONT of the socket, and that as soon as my brain thought it had a solution, it let my leg relax and thus let my tib point stick out and rub against the front of the socket, thus making the hole in the gel.
But I shan't give up yet. Before, I always tried patches OUTSIDE the liner, so the sandwich went: stump, liner, patch, socks, socket. But the gel patches, when they worked, were right next to my skin, so the sequence was: stump, gel patch, liner, etc.
I will try my various patches in that position instead, and see if I can find something that works. Any other ideas gratefully received.
Allen.
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Post by barclay on Nov 23, 2010 21:31:42 GMT -7
Ouch - sorry to hear that the patches aren't working so well. Changing them every two hours would get pretty expansive , so I won't even suggest it. Perhaps a different brand ?
Do you have a pin liner prosthesis ? I've found with mine that the fit is better if the pin is NOT straight out/down, but slanted slightly down/back. Maybe a different pin angle would help set the position of the stump so that there is less pressure on the tibia ?
wish you quick success!!
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Post by cherylm on Nov 25, 2010 0:05:42 GMT -7
Allen, what you're saying about your fit issue just registered with me. Has your leg guy tried various methods of actually building in a "relief" in your socket? I know that I have a lot of trouble with my tibia hitting the front of my sockets, and it's just become "standard operating procedure" for my sockets to have a slight "bubble" built in where the bone would usually hit. Until that feature is added, I have substantial pain...once it's in there, the pain vanishes.
Barclay has a good point about positioning the pin as well (if you're wearing a pin-lock system). I do best with the bottom of the pin is angled slightly forward, as it seems to give me a tendency to keep my stump more to the back of my socket.
Sorry to hear that you seem to be puncturing your padding! That doesn't sound good to me............
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